Friday, September 23, 2016

Informed Electorate PAC is a scam: It polls your opinion on one question per call, until they ask you for money on the third

They are at: www.votethewill.org

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First call: Did you vote in the last election?

Second call: Should the federal government decide stuff or the states?

On the third call they tell you it costs money to collect your opinion, so how about coughing up $20 to help.

Looks like a phishing expedition to me.

















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74 comments:

  1. Got calls recently just like you report. I hope they don't make money off this scam. The "caller" said they hope to poll 500,000 people!

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  2. Yes, exactly! Received the 3rd call and when you tell them you do not want to donate on the phone, they will tell you to commit to $30 for the cost of sending you their bullshit pledge letter. Your donation is all filled out and ready for you to send in your $30! They make no sense of what they are claiming to do which is to "educate and inform the whole mass of the people" AND Send your pledge today so they can put it to work as we promised. If your receive a phone call from Informed Electorate Pac phone it's a total scam! phone number listed is 1-469-607-4695 1-469-701-0053

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  3. Just as other call-receivers noted, I got the third call asking for a pledge of $20 so I told them to send me the letter in the mail. He wanted my credit card number but it wouldn't go through (luckily!). I got the pledge letter saying I had pledged $30 - untrue. So I decided to check them out. Glad I did.They sure won't get any money from me! Don't fall for this!

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  4. I also got the third call,he wanted my credit card or checking info.for a $20 pledge, I sad scam alert, that I would never give that info to a stranger over the phone, told him I to send me info in the mail and i would check them out, Here I am checking them out. Sad to think people are falling for this scam. I received my call 12/28/16

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  5. Received third call from Informed Electorate today, and they asked for credit card donation of $20 just like the others have reported. Scenario was exactly the same with one question asked on each call. I think they are intending to build a sense of familiarity over the course of the calls, so people will feel more comfortable giving a credit card number. The phone number used today was: 469-607-4695. Opportune time for them to call as I'm sure most people feel that they are not heard by their congressmen. I imagine that is an effective hook for lots of people.

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    1. Thanks for the advice. I just got the second call. Quite friendly with the one question survey. Now I know that I will refuse the 3rd call. I totally agree with this .. A scam.

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  6. MINE WAS FOR A PLEDGE OF 25$ I HUNG UP. I GOT THE FEELING IT WAS A ROBOT ON THE OTHER END OF THE LINE.

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  7. Never got to the point of asking me for money....as for holding the govt accountable......as soon as I asked him where this group was for the last 8 years he suddenly couldn't hear me and would transfer me to a customer service supervisor who would answer my questions.....non partisan? not likely

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  8. Got the third call today asking for a $25 donation... seems like they are upping the game!!

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  9. Got called 4 mornings in a row and woken up by these clowns. 3 different numbers. 412-226-0147, 567-218-1081, 720-452-9840. Wish my home phone had autoblock like my cell does.

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  10. Received these called over the last two weeks. Today I was asked for money. Person was really uncomfortable when I told him I was on the internet and it appeared they were a scam. He continued to try to get my account information despite my telling him I don't give out those things over the phone. I am really concerned about this group. I want to be politically active but I don't need a scam artist.

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  11. Got my call 3rd call today.. asking for money.

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  12. I received the three calls, too, and refused to send them money. They keep calling though, every day, sometimes twice a day, but I don't pick up. Thank you to those who have listed numbers. I'll block them all and see what happens. That guy is certainly a smooth talker, isn't he?

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  13. Just got off the third call and didn't bite. Their second question was terribly constructed and vague, and I became suspicious after that. Saw the pitch for money coming a mile away.

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  14. This is a robot call. Hung up after I had it repeating itself a couple of times. Easy to figure. Pauses are too long between questions. I don't deal with robots or scam artists. This is both.

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  15. Very advanced robot, but it talks through you fairly often.. Don't give money.

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  16. Yes, I got the third call today, and figured out it was a Robot. And the request was for $25.00, or $10.00 if the first was too much. Since I am on the Do Not Call List, this really ticks me off. The number "He" called from today was 469-607-4695. So maddening.

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    1. The "Do Not Call" list doesn't cover charitable or political calling. You need a blocking mechanism on your phone. I have about 150 blocked numbers on my phone. I feel good whenever an incoming call gets blocked.

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    2. If you get your calls on a smart phone the YouMail app is an excellent tool for blocking known spammers.

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  17. 'got my 5th call yesterday, this is the 2nd time they asked for money; he wanted my credit card info, I said no. When I asked for more info about how their information gets into public hands, ie. who uses this information and how is it made public for the benefit of all, 'Nate' feigned that he couldn't hear me anymore, I was breaking up and he had to cut the call short. I know this wasn't true, and I kept saying to him 'that's not good enough, Nate!'. If they call me back, I will give them piece of my mind.

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  18. I've gotten 2 or 3 calls from this group. It always sounds like a robot call. There's a delay when I ask questions. My calls alway have a 412 area code (Pittsburgh, PA area as I used to live there.) The latest caller asked for my address for 'demographic purposes.' I said I didn't feel comfortable giving out that information. Suppose he was going to send me a pledge sheet? Anyway, after reading this, I won't even answer the phone! What a scam!

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    1. Yes, I just received a call with these questions this morning. Feel a little uncomfortable that they need so much information. This was the first time it was a robot. I have usually spoke with a person. They have been calling and asking questions since before the election. However, they have not ask me for any money yet and if they do they won't get any from me!

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  19. Got my third call today asking for money. Wanted credit card #. I told him I do not give credit card info over the phone; asked him to send me donation form via USPO. Asked for my bank account information instead of credit card. That's when the radar went up.

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  20. I have been receiving calls from this guy, too. Today was the second time he asked for money. At some point during the pitch for money he mentioned something about "taking our country back." I asked, "Taking our country back from whom?" He wouldn't respond and kept deflecting with a different question. When I persisted I got the "bad connection" line and he asked me to hold for a supervisor - who never came on the line. Is there somewhere we can report this scam?

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    1. Thanks for your comment, Terry. You could try filing a complaint with the office of the Attorney General in your own state. Votethewill.org indicates that its current office address is in Utah, so perhaps one could complain to the Utah authorities, but they might not care if you don't live there. Another angle is to involve the IRS, which might look into it if it got enough complaints. Or perhaps the FEC, the Federal Elections Commission.

      Legitimate polling operations never ask for money. They self-fund or are paid by someone else to conduct the poll. They're actually grateful if you agree to answer their questions since most people just hang up. Informed Electorate is not a polling organization in my opinion. It's a PAC pure and simple, a political action committee, posing as opinion gatherers while actually just raising funds to be spent on politics or a politician, but it's unclear on what issue or on whom. They keep the pitch thin and vague, hitting on key words they know resonate with the public. If they make 1000 calls and get three suckers to contribute, that's good. I'll bet they're raking in big bucks because they're making tens of thousands of calls at little cost. As others have noted, you are probably talking to a robot.

      It's not a coincidence that they ramped up for the 2016 election. I'm sure it was a real money maker for them. Parasites on the body politic.

      Hope that helps a little.

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    2. I was told that we are to report them to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) at: 1-877-382-4357. I can't believe I fell for this! I felt they were "recording" my answers. Once they asked for money, I knew better.

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  21. I just got called this morning!!!! It was VERY coincidental that 10 minutes later I got a call from the "fraternal order of police" asking to send me an envelope so I could donate. Biggest coincidence? They used the FAKE NAME I had just given to the vote the will caller. SCAM.

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  22. The questions they ask call for a direct yes or no answer, and there's a scam out there recording (as this call did - the pauses between questions are to record your response) "yes" responses from you, which are later used on constructed recordings showing that you agreed to various terms that had nothing to do with the original call - purchasing items, periodic donations, etc. Never say "YES" to a recorded or otherwise unsolicited telephone message.

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    1. I had this thought right after I hung up. I hope it is not the case!

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  23. Just received my third call from this organization. "Nate" asked for $25. It is definitely a robot calling, although "Nate " denied this. Another phone scam, preying on unsuspecting Americans!

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  24. Yup, just got my third phone call today. After the first phone call I thought to myself, "that guy sounds like a robot." Had no idea he actually IS a robot until I read the above comments today! So glad I did not fall for this. I plan to tell the robot to stop calling here the next time, and then complain to the National Do Not Call Registry if this organization persists. What good it will do, I'm not sure, but I vaguely recall a regulation that a solicitor, like a charity or other organization seeking funds who is exempt from the Do Not Call Registry, must stop calling if you personally tell them to.

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  25. wow, people. they do ask for money. I said no. they still call and I do their survey. I'm not sure what the scam is you guys are talking about. Just say you don't want to contribute.

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    1. No legitimate polling organization ever asks for money. This is a money collecting operation.

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    2. I wouldn't call them a polling organization. They aren't a research facility like Pew research, more like a political PAC (political organizations definitely try to solicit donations). Nonprofits often solicit donations as they can't operate for free. Some of them are fare more disruptive and annoying then these robocalls. It's prerecorded scripts played based on the call and responses, but that is done by many organizations that put out a lot of calls, even my kid's school use prerecorded messages. The problem I have with calling this a scam, is that simple questions, solicitation, and prerecorded messages aren't illegal, and don't automatically constitute a scam. I think more research is needed to identify their real intentions of both their questions, and their solicitation.

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  26. I blocked the first number, then a second one appeared on my caller ID, now a third one appeared 412 226-0147 by a Michele. They are getting quite resourceful and do not give up. Do not fall for this scam!

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  27. This is where Abby Hoffman would tell us to get as many of those self-return postage envelopes from them and tape them to all the 2L bottles of whatever's cheapest and drop them in the mail.

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    1. You can always just use a rock. It's okay to mail a rock.

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    2. I think a brick is the appropriate tool for the job ;)

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  28. Got the third call today myself. As I always do when being asked for money over the phone, I said no while hanging up. Who knows if I'll hear from them again. Like Gregor's idea, but that would require me providing them an address and I don't want to do that. Sure, they can look it up, but at least that will cost them more time and money :-)

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  29. This company has sent my grandmother over 200 pieces of mail in 2 DAYS!!!

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  30. This company has sent my grandmother over 200 pieces of mail in 2 DAYS!

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  31. I got my third call today. When I said I couldn't afford the $25.00 "donation", he stated he would "hold off" putting the charge through for 45 days, if I would give my credit card information today. I said no, which then prompted the robotic call to asking for just $15.00 today- surely I could afford that...Needless to say, I hung up. They have been calling me for months, and don't appear to give up very easily.
    Don't fall for it!

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  32. I got my third call today. The caller sounds like a recording, but if you ask a question there is a moment of dead time and then the caller speaks. Of course he asked for $25.00 today to fund the work they are doing. When I asked for the name of the person behind the organization and who was the founder suddenly he said he couldn't hear me. (BS) He stated he would transfer me to customer service since he could no longer hear me. Of course, I hung up.

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  33. I got my 3rd call today asking for $25.00 so they can fund their work. Asked a question and there was a 1/2 a second delay and then a man's voice came on the line. I asked who is the founder of the PAC and who is the driving force behind it and suddenly he could no longer hear me. He said because he couldn't hear me that he would transfer me to customer service. Of course I hung up at that point.

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  34. I got a first call, from 1-720-452-9840:"This is John with a recorded message from Electorate Info. I have just one question: Did you vote in the last election?" After a 2nd yes-or-no question the [robot?] said, "I didn't hear that," and asked me to speak a little louder. Then it said, "Would you spell your first name for our record?" I hung up then because I've heard of scams that use your recorded, "Yes," to create a falsified contract.

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  35. I received my 3rd call from this organization today. 1st call asked the single question.. ."did you vote in the presidential election" ... A week or so later the second call came...and asked where my trust to make decisions for my life were better trusted.. the Federal or State governement. Today... the third call came. It was a soliciting call... thay touted the importance not only of my voice as one of "we the people" ... but also asking for financial support. It became obvious that some of what was being spoken to me...was a prerecorded voice. The sentence... "most people find it convienient to give the donation with a credit card.. if you have the number memorized...great..if not I can wait for you to get it." was repeated verbatem...which was the tip off. I told the "voice"... that I wanted time to check the organization out in order to make an informed decision. He then asked me to "press the number 1" on my phone in order to give my electronic consent to continue calling. This was THE RED FLAG that made me suspicious. I refused... the voice explained again it was just to allow them to continue calling ... (to give me the power to be that voice!!) It wasn't even a suggestion ... but rather the voice says "Press number 1 on your phone now." ... I refused again... and the man said.. "thank you for your time" and hung up!! He didn't ask for my address in order to send a pledge card... just sort of "gave up" on me! THIS IS A SCAM!!! How SLICK they are. The conversation opened up with a "personal wish that I'm having a good day"... (How FRIENDLY THEY ARE!!)... then furthered that feeling 'connecting' with this organziation with a universal agreement of "needing to hold our politicians accountable." DO NOT FALL FOR THIS!! We Do have a voice...and we do hold individual power...to be INFORMED and to spend our mighty dollars with the companies and organizaitions that agree with our values. THIS organization... sounds SO good. BEWARE!!

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  36. I was 95% sure it was a scam until I found this page and am now 101% sure (This assessment has a 1% margin of error)

    Is anyone aware of a productive course of action to get this shut down? Surely this must be illegal. I'd love to see the people behind get fined and sent to jail.

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  37. Just got a third call. Was asked for a $25 donation. When I didn't say yes the request was $15. When I said I needed them to send me their info so I could check to be sure they were legal to solicit funds. The caller tried to overlook my request and say they'd send a pledge card with "in the range of $15 donation".! I repeated the phrase "in the range of" but added I would need some info as their legal authorization to solicit funds. That's when he backed off pressing for a donation and ended the call. The number which came up on caller I'd is (913)717-5005, Electorate Info.
    True their spiel sounds plausible "holding our elected officials accountable by sharing survey results to show them exactly how constituents feel about certain issues. Also sharing voting record w/the PAC donors" Problem is You can visit the House.gov or Senate.gov websites to get that info as well as info about any proposed bills. So why would anybody need these people?

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  38. Thanks so much for the blog post. I found it after the first call and thought I would have some fun. I took the second call. On the third call, I told the caller "Nate, I've been looking at the internet for your organization. It looks like a scam. What kind of scam are you running, Nate?" After asking that question twice, he told me the story about how a gentleman (nobody I would know) has developed this technology to collect survey responses. That was the perfect thing to say to me. "Tell me more about this technology, Nate. I happen to work in software." Pause. Him: "I'm sorry, we have a really bad connection. I can't hear you." Me: "That's BS, Nate. Take me off your list and don't ever call here again." I haven't had this much fun since the last person claiming to be from Windows called and I gave the "technician" to my husband the Microsoft programmer. :-)

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  39. I got my third call yesterday and Nate asked for $25. I asked if this was a non-partisan group and he gave me the spiel about being a PAC - same thing as the other posts. When I refused, he dropped it down to $15. When I refused again, he tried to get me to agree to stay on their call list by asking me to "press the number 2" on my phone in order to give my electronic consent to continue calling. At that point I hung up on him. "Nate" is very good at this so I'm sure they have scammed many people.

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  40. I have had multiple calls in the past from this group. I received a call from them last week. The question was about the repeal and replacement of the affordable health care act. I pressed number two, I oppose Trump's plan to appeal and replace the affordable health care act. The man doing the poll did not acknowledge that I had entered a choice on my phone. When I told him that I had already pressed number two, he said that he would just put me down as undecided. I said no, I am not undecided. I opposed Trumps plan. He did not acknowledge what I had just said and thanked me for my time while I was still talking and hung up. I tried to call them back and found that there is no way to talk to an actual person. If this is how they conduct their polls,then you are correct. It is a scam.I have always refused to donate to their cause in the past when I have been asked. It was always easy to tell from the way the questions were asked, what the response was that they were hoping for, but to tell me that he would put me down as undecided while I am telling him the exact opposite is truly abhorrent.

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  41. At 8:15 PM today May 17, 2017- I got a call from a guy named Sandy from (he said) Informed Electorate of Utah. He asked for my home address and phone number. I should have refused both. He said he was getting this information because he was doing a survey.

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    1. He called you for your phone number? Lol

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  42. I got a first call this morning, now from a nice robot woman with a soft, Southern accent! I called the number back, and got the Informed Electorate "Customer Service" recording. Pressed 3 to be put on their Do Not Call list. Will see if I hear from them again. If I do, will call FCC/BBB.

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  43. I keep getting their calls from different numbers all over the states. I can't figure out how to block them.

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    1. If you don't want to deal with them I would either not answer the call, or call back and select the option to be removed from their call list. I am letting the calls continue, cause I want to see what actually comes of it. I just tell them no for every solicitation, but the poll questions don't bother me at all. I also don't interact outside their regular questions since I know they're using automated responses, and I don't give out any personal information (ie. credit card, address etc.).

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  44. I have been doing these surveys off and on since last year. When they hit me up for money I said you either want money or my opinion but you cant have both and if you call me again for my opinion I better never hear a word about money. They continue to call and have never mentioned money again.
    They claim to be unbiased which I do not believe. He led by telling me last month they polled 350,000 voters... which I find incredulous.
    Tonite the 60 second survey was preceded by the statement " President Obama has been attempting to influence The House" President Obama? Wht? That sounded strange to me so I stopped him and asked if he could please repeat what he said. I heard a series of blips and said outloud " Oh this is a recording" then the guy spoke up and said " NO WE USE VOICE ALTERING SOFTWARE"!
    That is why you hear the same voice every time they call!
    It could be a woman in India and its still going to sound like a generic male from tne US is calling.
    Its a scam.

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  45. I just received the third call and was asked to donate $25. I said that I would after I checked them out on the internet. He then offered to send me a donor letter and asked for my address. I refused and told him to call back in a week to give me the time to research the organization. He then gave me theit site address www.votethewill.com. It might have been .org. I don't remember. But I'm thinking, why do they think that I would go to their site without checking to see is they were a scam first?

    Unlike others posting here, I never thought that the guy calling today was a robot. If he was, they must have great software that would enable them to sift through the possible responses and reply appropriately. Oddly. after I made it clear that I would not give him any information beyond my name (which I'm very sorry that I did now), he asked if I would agree that he had been polite and not pushy and I said es (another thing that I regret but what's done is done. They can probably find my address but I'm fairly certain that they can't find a way to get any money from me.

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  46. Got 3rd call today. I always knew it was a robot. Asked for $25. I said no, don't call, then hung up.

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  47. Just got a call from this group. Total scam. It's a robot. Why doesn't the FBI do something constructive and stop this crap.

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  48. I got a call from this org. about 30 mins. ago and was asked if I approved or disapproved of the current status of foreigner admittance to our country. I was emphatic about "YES" the jerk pollster told me, OK, will put you down as "don't know". I repeated "YES quite loudly 4 or 5 times, but my answer wasn't acknowledged. I've never been asked for a donation, but will never again indulge this dishonest org.

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  49. Same modus oporenti, they asked me for $25. I said NO. I did agree to have a letter sent. Since my address is public information anyway. When they do send the letter, or letters, they will get the response suggested above. "A rock in the mail". This was the the third call from them, the first time money was requested. I should have checked the internet before agreeing to receiving a letter. No $$ coming from this household. !!

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  50. Robot yes, scam likely, BEWARE !! Did not ask for $$ until the 3rd call ($25). Agreed to letter being sent. I like the suggestion above, to send a rock !!
    No $$ from this household to this group.!

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  51. Comments containing advocacy for Democrats and the Democrat Party will not be published here. The only thing worse than a Republican is a libertarian, and the only thing worse than both is a Democrat.

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  52. I have been reading most of the complaints about this scam. With people giving phone numbers I decided to call them 469-607-4605 and 913-717-5005 waited for the prompt and then pressed 3 to be put on their do not call list.

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    1. Very amusing. For the record yours truly hasn't been bothered since the third call, because I told them to cease and desist.

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  53. I have been getting calls from this organization for about a year now, since the presidential campgain began. It is a robot call, but sounds like a human and typically he will say something like we would like your opinion on current state of affairs, etc. Since the last three calls they want money! Today they called to find out if the country will fare better or worse in 4 years. the questions about how much money Ican donate and what credit card number, etc. I asked WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE? So it gives me their website...www.votethewill.org. Which tells one nothing much. Anyway a domain search led me to the following information. Contact Information
    Registrant Contact
    Name: Brett Payne
    Organization:
    Mailing Address: 871 Milestone Drive, Smithfield UT 84335 US
    Phone: +1.8019107441
    Ext:
    Fax:
    Fax Ext:
    Email:brettgp@hotmail.com
    Admin Contact
    Name: Brett Payne
    Organization:
    Mailing Address: 871 Milestone Drive, Smithfield UT 84335 US
    Phone: +1.8019107441
    Ext:
    Fax:
    Fax Ext:
    Email:brettgp@hotmail.com
    Tech Contact
    Name: Brett Payne
    Organization:
    Mailing Address: 871 Milestone Drive, Smithfield UT 84335 US
    Phone: +1.8019107441
    Ext:
    Fax:
    Fax Ext:
    Email:brettgp@hotmail.com

    I pulled up this address on googlestreetview and , it's a fancy house. Did a search for Brett Payne and he is affiliated with the Republican Party. THIS IS A SCAM. DO NOT DONATE ANY MONEY TO THIS PERSON! I am contacting media to look into this person further.

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    1. Good work. It looks like there has indeed been a transfer of ownership, or at least location, from Arizona to Utah in the spring of 2017 before the expiry date this April. I verified what you posted about the domain, but not about the individual. I have no idea if he is a Republican or lives in a fancy house. But as always, no legitimate polling organization calls you on the phone to get your opinion and then "charges" you for it. If people are stupid enough to give money and personal information to this outfit, it's all on them. There's a sucker born every minute, and the mother of idiots is always pregnant.

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      Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
      Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
      Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
      Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
      Registry Registrant ID: C190960501-LROR
      Registrant Name: Brett Payne
      Registrant Organization:
      Registrant Street: 871 Milestone Drive
      Registrant City: Smithfield
      Registrant State/Province: UT
      Registrant Postal Code: 84335
      Registrant Country: US
      Registrant Phone: +1.8019107441
      Registrant Phone Ext:
      Registrant Fax:
      Registrant Fax Ext:
      Registrant Email: brettgp@hotmail.com
      Registry Admin ID: C190960503-LROR
      Admin Name: Brett Payne
      Admin Organization:
      Admin Street: 871 Milestone Drive
      Admin City: Smithfield
      Admin State/Province: UT
      Admin Postal Code: 84335
      Admin Country: US
      Admin Phone: +1.8019107441
      Admin Phone Ext:
      Admin Fax:
      Admin Fax Ext:
      Admin Email: brettgp@hotmail.com
      Registry Tech ID: C190960502-LROR
      Tech Name: Brett Payne
      Tech Organization:
      Tech Street: 871 Milestone Drive
      Tech City: Smithfield
      Tech State/Province: UT
      Tech Postal Code: 84335
      Tech Country: US
      Tech Phone: +1.8019107441
      Tech Phone Ext:
      Tech Fax:
      Tech Fax Ext:
      Tech Email: brettgp@hotmail.com
      Name Server: NS71.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
      Name Server: NS72.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
      DNSSEC: unsigned
      URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
      >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2017-08-17T12:40:41Z <<<

      For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

      Access to Public Interest Registry WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator, a Registrar, or Afilias except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. All rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy.

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    2. Domain Name: VOTETHEWILL.ORG
      Registry Domain ID: D187341325-LROR
      Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
      Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
      Updated Date: 2017-03-26T02:55:49Z
      Creation Date: 2016-04-04T15:17:46Z
      Registry Expiry Date: 2020-04-04T15:17:46Z
      Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
      Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
      Registrar IANA ID: 146
      Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
      Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
      Reseller:
      Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
      Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
      Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
      Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
      Registry Registrant ID: C190960501-LROR
      Registrant Name: Registration Private
      Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
      Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
      Registrant Street: 14455 N. Hayden Road
      Registrant City: Scottsdale
      Registrant State/Province: Arizona
      Registrant Postal Code: 85260
      Registrant Country: US
      Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
      Registrant Phone Ext:
      Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
      Registrant Fax Ext:
      Registrant Email: votethewill.org@domainsbyproxy.com
      Registry Admin ID: C190960503-LROR
      Admin Name: Registration Private
      Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
      Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
      Admin Street: 14455 N. Hayden Road
      Admin City: Scottsdale
      Admin State/Province: Arizona
      Admin Postal Code: 85260
      Admin Country: US
      Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
      Admin Phone Ext:
      Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
      Admin Fax Ext:
      Admin Email: votethewill.org@domainsbyproxy.com
      Registry Tech ID: C190960502-LROR
      Tech Name: Registration Private
      Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
      Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
      Tech Street: 14455 N. Hayden Road
      Tech City: Scottsdale
      Tech State/Province: Arizona
      Tech Postal Code: 85260
      Tech Country: US
      Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
      Tech Phone Ext:
      Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
      Tech Fax Ext:
      Tech Email: votethewill.org@domainsbyproxy.com
      Name Server: NS71.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
      Name Server: NS72.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
      DNSSEC: unsigned
      URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
      >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2017-10-23T16:30:17Z <<<

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  54. There's an update about Vote The Will's "Informed Electorate" posted today.

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    1. I received my 3rd call today and results are as has already been posted which made me instantly wary: Before asking the one question I was wished a great day and the hope that I was well. I was asked to donate $25 and replied that on a fixed income it was impossible at which point I was told that it could be reduced to $15 and they could hold the amt for 30 days. Again I stated that I could not do so and would donate online when I could. Again I was pushed for my cc or debit card #. I refused and went to website while still speaking. I mentioned that the website had a button for "Log In" but not one for "Sign Up" or "Register". Suddenly the male caller could not hear me and stated that I was being transferred to "customer service". [Really? Customer Service? I wasn't purchasing anything so why the term "customer service" instead of using something like "Volunteer that assists in Donations"? I was then transferred to a recorded message asking that I press button 1, 2, or 3 in response to the donation I was making. I hung up, researched and ended up here. I then checked again with whois.org and there is some notable differences in the registration information that is now available. One major change that jumped out at me is the fact that "Brett Payne" is no longer listed as a contact or registrant of this site and now everything is going through "DOMAINS BY PROXY" which obviously is an attempt to hide the person's identity. If it was legit, an owner might make his info private but would not use a "proxy" in an attempt to completely cover his tracks. There may be several "proxy's" used in order to cause confusion. The info I found is listed below. I intend to contact godaddy.com and relay the information discovered and also will link to this site so they realize that I am not the only one encountering this issue and that it should be investigated and shut down if a fraud which would violate their terms of service. I will also send to the FCC AND the IRS as they can check the records for 2016's taxes and see what has been reported under the "Brett Payne" name [and that given address which has now been removed] and if this is registered as a "for profit" or "non-profit" and let them take it from there.
      I will post below as this blog restricts maximum characters.

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    2. After more digging, it appears that "DOMAINS BY PROXY" is owned by the creator of "GoDaddy" and is their service to their customers that wish to hide their personal information. What is striking though is that "WhoIs" lists the following:

      Reseller:
      Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
      Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
      Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
      Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited

      icann.org is a "Global" group who's HEADQUARTERS is listed as being in Los Angeles, CA but with many other locations throughout the world [Turkey, Belgium, Singapore, China, Uruguay, Kenya, Washington DC, and more].

      It appears that this global community is involved with internet politics in some way - as pertains to how the internet is operated but I could be mistaken on this.

      You can see that icann.org is involved with Vote the Will's website in some way. Maybe domain name was purchased through icann.org who then registered the domain with GoDaddy's Domains by Proxy. I'm not a computer nor an internet wizard but something about this whole set-up stinks of 3 day old fish. I can't tell if the information from the WhoIs website is the original information that was provided or had been updated to show the ICANN information. It does seem website owner is trying to hide his identity and is learning as he goes as there is only abt 2 months between the WhoIs info that GCrosley posted that that which I posted above and now his personal name and address has been removed.

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